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That's why i suggest we have another one after the "fun" one. That way the serious people can play the way they want. If there's not enough of us for a tournament we'll smack down some randoms online.Its a fun tournament not competitive
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jj_Sky5000 wrote: Its a fun tournament not competitive
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jj_Sky5000 wrote: Its a fun tournament not competitive
Wrong! Tournaments are by nature competitive... that is why we keep track of wins and losses. More fun for noobs= less fun for non-noobs.
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Nacelle wrote:
That's why i suggest we have another one after the "fun" one. That way the serious people can play the way they want. If there's not enough of us for a tournament we'll smack down some randoms online.Its a fun tournament not competitive
The number of minions killed is not a good way of determining who was better. Some champions are better minion farmers than others. Some are not even supposed to take minion gold away from their lane-mate, so your anecdote isn't necessarily applicable. Online you're matched with similarly leveled people. If you are a noob, then you were matched with noobs, and it just so happens you were the top noob in that match.
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jj_Sky5000 wrote: Why cant the tournament be fun for all. not have to 2. I am a noob and i want to play in the tournment. I am competitive by nature if i win i win if i dont idont no big deal its a lan its supposed to fun. The mouse toss is a competion and fun for all big or small it didnt matter , because its fun
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garfi3ld wrote: Why is everyone fighting?
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I know you're talking to me here, so I'll respond. Your tournament, your rules, we don't have to like them. Saying that we shouldn't be allowed to discuss not participating in it and doing our own instead sounds like a dictatorship to meLersar wrote: That being said, just because you disagree with somethings DOES NOT mean you should try to discourage other people from participating. That's just unnecessary.
Once again, I didn't realize we were fighting. No one is doing any name calling or flaming, Just simple discussions. I called JJ a noob only because he referred to himself as one in a previous post.Lersar wrote: Lastly, I for one am looking for a little bit of a debate in these sort of threads. Not fighting; there's no reason we can't be civil about this.
Scrutiny? I'm not sure I get your meaning here, but once again I assume it's pointed at me because I'm the most vocal here. I'm Sorry that I am, but I come here in between games and off times. Maybe I should spend more time playing games instead.Lersar wrote: But everyone has an opinion and again, we want to hear it. But please realize that your are opening yourself up to scrutiny when you do.
Sabotage? Who's doing that?Lersar wrote: My main point here is please don't stop giving us your ideas. Good, bad, simple, ridiculous... whatever it is, let us know. But please don't try to sabotage it if things don't go your way, and be respectful of one another.
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Twodavez wrote: Hmm, i think i've beat the horse way dead! If those are the rules, that's cool. Nothing wrong with wanting a fair fight. But i still like circling around to this is a very specific style game play and feeding and enemy can ruin the whole match.
I know the staff has ruled on the tourney and that's fine, i'd just like to know what everyone thinks the rules should be. Everyone throws out theoreticals and what-ifs, go ahead and post your own sets of rules, if i like them, maybe i'll ask you to play a match, you bring your best 4, i'll bring mine!
Rules i'd like to see:
-Format: 5v5 Modifed Draft Mode (Single Elimination)
-Teams: random base upon player level
-Capacity: 40 players/8 teams max
-Level: Min level 7 to participate
-Map: Summoner's Rift - Summer
-Team A will create games, bans and picks will happen before the game is created.
- BANS - B,A,A,B, (5 minutes to complete)
- PICKS - A,B,B,A,A,B,B,A,A,B (5 minutes to complete)
- Runes page and Mastery Skills will be allowed unlimited(Completely applied is confusing language, does that mean we can use them or not.
-Victory: Opponents' Nexus destroyed or surrender.
-Games will be open view (No limiting people walking around to watch, it is after all just a game)
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Maybe because everyone agreed that it was a good compromise that didn't require a response.Why is it that noone has commented back when I asked for feedback on giving hours of practice time between when the teams are set and the start of the tournament.
Come one now. In the next sentance you say "we do have to consider all of the 77 attendees". That's what "make it fair" means. Otherwise the rules would be different. Once again I'm not trying to change them, they're fine. But don't try to say that's not what's happening.The staff isn't trying to "make it fair"
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Come one now. In the next sentance is "we do have to consider all of the 77 attendees". That's what "make it fair" means. Otherwise the rules would be different. Once again I'm not trying to change them, they're fine. But don't try to say that's not what's happening.The staff isn't trying to "make it fair"
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Nacelle wrote: Maybe because everyone agreed that it was a good compromise that didn't require a response.
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The staff isn't trying to "make it fair"
I assume you want the 2nd one to be the one you meant.The only thing that we have done to try to make it fair...
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You don't realize how often I've waited to hit submit or edited my post to change the wording to sound less argumentative. What you see is more than %50 off the original. Take the post above. The first thing I put down was a bit different.garfi3ld wrote: Chris you may not feel like you are arguing but it does feel like it when you read your posts.
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I commented on this, suggesting an area of practice time and moving forward the sign-up cutoff as needed. I thought I saw mention of a 5 hour practice window, which I felt was a bit large (I do hope we do other things at this lan than just play LoL, despite how much I enjoy the game), so I mentioned 2-3 hours.garfi3ld wrote: Why is it that noone has commented back when I asked for feedback on giving hours of practice time between when the teams are set and the start of the tournament.
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You don't realize how often I've waited to hit submit or edited my post to change the wording to sound less argumentative. What you see is more than %50 off the original. Take the post above. The first thing I put down was a bit different.garfi3ld wrote: Chris you may not feel like you are arguing but it does feel like it when you read your posts.
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Leonresevil2 wrote:
I commented on this, suggesting an area of practice time and moving forward the sign-up cutoff as needed. I thought I saw mention of a 5 hour practice window, which I felt was a bit large (I do hope we do other things at this lan than just play LoL, despite how much I enjoy the game), so I mentioned 2-3 hours.garfi3ld wrote: Why is it that noone has commented back when I asked for feedback on giving hours of practice time between when the teams are set and the start of the tournament.
I think some here are concerned that there are a bunch of players interested in the tournament, but not interested enough to post, read the rules on the forums, and be active in any way to indicate interest, and some fear they will get into the tournament and have to teach their whole team or suffer due to inexperienced playing. I can agree to this, but I hope things go well. If I had a more personal team, I would be in favor of picking manually, but I've mostly been 'solo' or running with people online. I haven't seen or heard of a LanOC LoL group, and I really don't know how many people will be in the tournament. I suspect we will have some that say "hey, it's free, why not get in it and faceroll!", naively thinking they will be great at it without experience. The game is like Starcraft on steriods; your behind can and will be handed to you, to the detriment to your team. That's what IMO the veterans are fearing, losing not because of their lack of skill but because of someone else's. And there's not much way to know how many beginners will jump in, until the day of. I can't wait to see how things go, and I do hope that there is a way to strike good balance.
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